Great response. Humans, in general are not good at assessing risks. Some are reasonable good where the variables to consider are all known. I am thinking mechanical engineering involving well known materials. This level of knowledge does not exist at the frontiers of most academic disciplines. Drugs , aircraft, autonomous vehicles, etc require testing. As the knowledge base moves from this base to knowing it is inadequate to it being inadequate without knowing why , assessing risk becomes less reliable and even impossible, until the knowledge base expands. Expanding the base can and often leads to financial loss and death.
As for Quote #3 about education (small e), I would say that I believe there are such things as universal beliefs. Everything does not require an individualized context. My evidence for this point of view comes from the presence in every great religion of the world of a variation on the commonly-held value of the Golden Rule. That rule is used as a guiding principle by Christians. The Golden Rule states that we should treat others as we would like to be treated. Every major religion holds this principle to be true under another name. If as diverse and sometimes conflicting sets of modus operandi as are embedded in the great religions can include this single principle, then, some learning to grow must be universal.
I do like very much the follow-up question to your chosen citations. They often enrich my contemplations about it more than the actually quotes. Thank you
Zitat № 02: "Ich nehme an, es ist verlockend, wenn das einzige Werkzeug, das man hat, ein Hammer ist, alles zu behandeln, als wäre es ein Nagel." ― Abraham Maslow
Das nehme ich auch an; warum sonst sollte sich "unsere Wissenschaft" so ähnlich verhalten, indem sie ihre Methoden nahezu nicht in Frage stellt?
Sie versucht, mit der Rohrzange eine Piaget auseinander zu nehmen, um der ZEIT auf die Spur zu kommen. 🤗
„Man kann keine gute Gesellschaft haben, wenn sich Tugend nicht lohnt." ― Abraham Maslow
Meine heutige Definition: Eine "gute Gesellschaft" generiert ein Klima, in dem das faire und umsichtige Verhalten allgemein gut geheißen und wertgeschätzt wird.
Was aber einen höheren Anteil an geistig reiferen Mitgliedern voraussetzt, welche die weniger reifen... fürsorglich engagiert motivieren können.
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Tugenden sind Elemente zur Förderung der Anpassung ― und nicht der Reifung.
To what extent can the pursuit of safety be seen not merely as a retreat from growth, but as a legitimate expression of wisdom, self-care, or prudence, and how should one ethically weigh the value of comfort against the imperative for change?
I suggest, the pursuit of safety, self-care and prudence and the imperative for change in order to grow, are not in conflict with each other. Not, either/or, rather both/and - interdependent and mutually life enriching. Both a legitimate expression of wisdom And an ethical imperative to grow, to change.
Great questions! My initial reaction to this set of Maslow quotes is he is very idealistic , and the statements are to general. The first question regarding virtue seems great, but virtue is not defined the same way in various cultures. Religious cultures are at war all over the globe. They all claim to be virtuous! Based on western civilization’s logic, they cannot all be correct.
We often place too much emphasis on the outcome. When things don't go as planned, we may lose the motivation to keep going. This attachment to success or failure can cause us to abandon our path halfway. Instead, we should focus on the journey—on doing each step with care and presence. When we honor the process, the flowers will bloom in their own time, and the results will follow naturally.
1 - It can't be. A society that does isn't moral. We ought to stand against it and love our lives in a better way by a better standard. It is a form of resistance.
2- Always pursue education, opinion and argument for its own sake. This way you're never going to fall into one dimensional ways of thinking
3 - If you think education is a means to and end it is easy to think it's anything but meaningful. Education is the end. There are different ways of learning and prefences over what one wants to learn but this can't be prioritised over generic learning. Specialise once there is a baseline is basically my point
4 - So long as you do all you can in the circumstances you're provided with then it's okay. not everyone has this privilege. You can navigate it however you like.
5 - It comes down to the reason why - if acting safely is to preserve then its okay. if it is to cower or pander then it's not okay
Thank you. And at the time I would put my daughter’s knowledge about prison against what any 10 year old should know. Thank you for the humanity you provide.
Perhaps he should have said “…backwards into the illusion of safety”.
Thanks for these, they are great prods. Love the format, too.
Great response. Humans, in general are not good at assessing risks. Some are reasonable good where the variables to consider are all known. I am thinking mechanical engineering involving well known materials. This level of knowledge does not exist at the frontiers of most academic disciplines. Drugs , aircraft, autonomous vehicles, etc require testing. As the knowledge base moves from this base to knowing it is inadequate to it being inadequate without knowing why , assessing risk becomes less reliable and even impossible, until the knowledge base expands. Expanding the base can and often leads to financial loss and death.
As for Quote #3 about education (small e), I would say that I believe there are such things as universal beliefs. Everything does not require an individualized context. My evidence for this point of view comes from the presence in every great religion of the world of a variation on the commonly-held value of the Golden Rule. That rule is used as a guiding principle by Christians. The Golden Rule states that we should treat others as we would like to be treated. Every major religion holds this principle to be true under another name. If as diverse and sometimes conflicting sets of modus operandi as are embedded in the great religions can include this single principle, then, some learning to grow must be universal.
I do like very much the follow-up question to your chosen citations. They often enrich my contemplations about it more than the actually quotes. Thank you
Soooo good. Thank you.
Zitat № 02: "Ich nehme an, es ist verlockend, wenn das einzige Werkzeug, das man hat, ein Hammer ist, alles zu behandeln, als wäre es ein Nagel." ― Abraham Maslow
Das nehme ich auch an; warum sonst sollte sich "unsere Wissenschaft" so ähnlich verhalten, indem sie ihre Methoden nahezu nicht in Frage stellt?
Sie versucht, mit der Rohrzange eine Piaget auseinander zu nehmen, um der ZEIT auf die Spur zu kommen. 🤗
„Man kann keine gute Gesellschaft haben, wenn sich Tugend nicht lohnt." ― Abraham Maslow
Meine heutige Definition: Eine "gute Gesellschaft" generiert ein Klima, in dem das faire und umsichtige Verhalten allgemein gut geheißen und wertgeschätzt wird.
Was aber einen höheren Anteil an geistig reiferen Mitgliedern voraussetzt, welche die weniger reifen... fürsorglich engagiert motivieren können.
✿
Tugenden sind Elemente zur Förderung der Anpassung ― und nicht der Reifung.
To what extent can the pursuit of safety be seen not merely as a retreat from growth, but as a legitimate expression of wisdom, self-care, or prudence, and how should one ethically weigh the value of comfort against the imperative for change?
I suggest, the pursuit of safety, self-care and prudence and the imperative for change in order to grow, are not in conflict with each other. Not, either/or, rather both/and - interdependent and mutually life enriching. Both a legitimate expression of wisdom And an ethical imperative to grow, to change.
Great questions! My initial reaction to this set of Maslow quotes is he is very idealistic , and the statements are to general. The first question regarding virtue seems great, but virtue is not defined the same way in various cultures. Religious cultures are at war all over the globe. They all claim to be virtuous! Based on western civilization’s logic, they cannot all be correct.
We often place too much emphasis on the outcome. When things don't go as planned, we may lose the motivation to keep going. This attachment to success or failure can cause us to abandon our path halfway. Instead, we should focus on the journey—on doing each step with care and presence. When we honor the process, the flowers will bloom in their own time, and the results will follow naturally.
1 - It can't be. A society that does isn't moral. We ought to stand against it and love our lives in a better way by a better standard. It is a form of resistance.
2- Always pursue education, opinion and argument for its own sake. This way you're never going to fall into one dimensional ways of thinking
3 - If you think education is a means to and end it is easy to think it's anything but meaningful. Education is the end. There are different ways of learning and prefences over what one wants to learn but this can't be prioritised over generic learning. Specialise once there is a baseline is basically my point
4 - So long as you do all you can in the circumstances you're provided with then it's okay. not everyone has this privilege. You can navigate it however you like.
5 - It comes down to the reason why - if acting safely is to preserve then its okay. if it is to cower or pander then it's not okay
Thank you. And at the time I would put my daughter’s knowledge about prison against what any 10 year old should know. Thank you for the humanity you provide.